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Bill Simpson: another approach to high altitude gardening

November 7, 2008

Bill Simpson has a huge garden going west of Casper. His growing conditions and soils are a bit different from ours in town. I asked Bill to summarize his growing season. Here is that summary. Note that while we and he both did the Watermelon trials in 2008, he was a lot more successful getting his seeds started than we were.

Tomatoes:
Ultimate Opener Smaller tomatoes then expected, no reason to plant this Indeterminate again.
Moskvich The worst plants I had this year. The cold spring almost killed them all and then blossom end rot hit 90% of these really small tomatoes. I've had bad luck with small indeterminate tomatoes.
Mountain Delight Strong plant, lots of fruit, NOT an early producer. I should try all of the plants in the Totally Tomatoes Mountain series.
Marmande See Tomande
Oregon Spring Did So-So. Doesn't like the strong Wyoming sun and cracked badly. I could see why it did well in Oregon.
Tomande Nice big Indeterminate, but if you're not getting ripe tomatoes untill September, why plant them? [2008 was a very cold season.]
Bloody Butcher Actually our first ripe tomato this year. The cold spring made the plants look awful, but they pulled through and produced our best tasting tomato. Walnut sized, not the advertized 3 to 4 oz.
Bush Beefsteak These plants remind me of the Mountain Delights. A strong potato leafed plant that starts cranking out when the Bush Early Girls start slowing down.
Bush Early Girl Since an early producer is so important to me, these plants are still my favorite. This is the one tomato plant that fits our short growing season.
Applause Only had 3 of these plants since that's all Fred gave me, and I am probably just as excited as Fred is about them. Finally, a large early tomato. The plants remind me of the Bush Early Girls, but with tomatoes three times bigger. It will be very interesting to grow these next year. I got early ripe tomatoes and then the plants stalled out for awhile.
Beets We planted Ruby Queen and a Detroit Red. This year I started putting up a partial sun block since the plants were getting so wilted from the sun. It really helped them and I'll being doing it again next year.
Bell Peppers With the cold spring they never got a chance to really get going. So production was pretty low.
Broccoli Fred turned me on to Packman Broccoli which is easy to find locally. This stuff is so good I don't need to try anybody else's. It's half the plant size with 3 times the production. Had a great year!
Cantaloupe I buy "Burpee Cantaloupe Sweet 'n Early hybrid (Muskmelon)." Wal-Mart sells the seed packs. It was a cold season, but we still got at least a dozen sweet melons. [Bill gave me three of these melons and they were delicious.]
Cantaloupe I buy "Burpee Cantaloupe Sweet 'n Early hybrid (Muskmelon)." Wal-Mart sells the seed packs. It was a cold season, but we still got at least a dozen sweet melons. [Bill gave me three of these melons and they were delicious.]
Carrots We've been planting that Rainbow Hybrid, but we get a lot of deformed Carrots this season. Plus, I discovered that the lighter the colored carrot, the less aroma and flavor it has. So I think we'll switch back to a basic NC orange next year.
Corn We had to do a second planting on the corn because of cold temps. I used some glass sheets to help heat up the ground. That worked well. Then I planted Silver Princess. It is so sweet we eat it raw.
Cucumber I put in "Sweet Slice" and "Fancy Green Slicer". They did OK, but "Marketmore 76" did much better.
Squash I put in Shumway's "Summer Squash" Multipik hybrid, yellow straightneck. We really liked this. It has good flavor and we had squash coming out of ears before the first Farmers Market. We also did "Golden Zucchini" and it took a second planting to get it going. It was the last thing to come up.
Onions I did onion sets, but planted them too deep so they didn't ball up as well as they should. Still, I had some good onions.
Potatoes My second and last year of planting "Norland". Once again we got very bad germination on the seed potatoes. I'll try and get back to Red LaSoda, Winema, or Pontiac.
Watermelon Fred got us 4 different seed's. It was a bad year to try melon's, but here's what we came up with. "Ford Hook", probly did the worst. "Whopper II" and "Glory Sugar" tied for second and the winner was "Melitopolski" you'll have to ask Fred how to pronounce that. It was a real slow starter, but passed up the rest once it saw some warm days. We'll try this one again next year..

September 7, 2008

I got a note from Bill Simpson I thought I would share.

July 28, 2008

The heat is on now and the plots are producing. Tomatoes are setting on, as are the squash an pumpkin. Cucumber are just now vining up. I picked our first little mess of beans last night. We are enjoying lettuce, but the radishes are done for. Our corn looks good but is not very tall yet. Here is a note from Bill Simpson.

June 29, 2008

We are definitely behind where we would be in a normal year. Still, things are in and are progressing. The brassicas are loving this cooler weather, as is the lettuce. This may be the best year we have ever had for raddishes.

Yesterday I visited Bill Simpson and his garden. It is interesting to note the differences that conditions make when he and we are growing the same variety. For instance, his Packman Broccoli were bigger than ours, but ours had already started heading and his had not.

April 30, 2008

I visited Bill Simpson on Sunday (27th). He showed me around his garden areas. I was struck by the fact that in a normal year he would start harvestion his asparagus during the second week of April. This year, however, they are only about an inch high right now. We have had a very cool spring, and the ground is not very warm yet. I may do my set outs and planting a week later than I normally would because of this.

February 6, 2008

Bill Simpson wrote a note. I will share it below.

Here is my reply.

Sorry it took so long to get back to you. No, the shape of tomato blossoms is such that they are self fertile, and it is only with some work that breeders can cross pollinate them. If you have a pollination or setting problem, that problem is probably due to conditions inside the plant. Because Tomatoes are virtually self polinating, that explains why adding certain nutrients to soil will help blossoms set on fruit, and also why the 'tomato set' spray also seems to help do the same. It is highly unlikely that tomatoes will cross pollinate.

October 2007, From Bill Simpson:

2007 TOMATOES

We do have a life outside of gardening, and get asked to join certain clubs once in a while. They want my time that I feel I don't have a lot of, but if someone ever started a tomato or vegetable club I don't see how I could NOT join. It seems like the more time you spend looking for or growing the perfect tomato, the more questions you come up with. In all the states I've lived in I never needed to know much to grow them. In Wyoming you need to make it through the "Master Gardeners" course just to get an idea of what you're up against. So talking to other tomato junkies like Fred and his group really feeds the hunger to get that record 7 point bull or 8 lb Walleye or even that perfect 16oz. juicy vine ripened tomato in July.

My goal in growing tomatoes is to be eating vine ripened tomatoes in July. I'm able to do that by planting determinate plants like the Bush Early Girl. I get my ripe tomatoes by July 15, but I pay a price for that. The quality is lacking even though it still blows away anything you're buying at the grocery store, and these hybrid plants are prone to a lot more problems. I'm willing to wait till August 1st for that vine ripe tomato off an Heirloom plant here in Casper Wyoming, but it hasn't found me yet. So Fred, what do you think I'll get first? A 7 point bull, 8 lb walleye or a big fat ripe tomato off a heirloom plant in early August? Until then here's a report of the tomato plants we planted this year.

BUSH EARLY GIRL - I'm always amazed how these small plants get so loaded with tomatoes. They have a strong acidic flavor that keeps them from the blue ribbon category. My plants will develop problems as the season goes on. The first ripe one was picked on July 10.
2007: Heavily loaded Bush Early Girl Tomato. Picture by Bill Simpson.

BUSH BEEFSTEAK - A bigger determinate plant with bigger fruit. Well into August before anything ripened. The healthiest plant we had this year.

CAMPBELL'S 1327 - The fastest and best germinating plant this year, but then went down hill. That could be because of our conditions or ? It would be interesting to see what these plants did for some one else.

LEGEND - But not in Wyoming. It was suppose to be great if you have a problem with blight. I guess my problem isn't blight, because they got yanked in July.

SUB-ARTIC PLENTY - It sounded like these should be a big cherry tomato. The ones we got were alot bigger and not as early as they claim. I don't know why we would plant them again.

February 2007, From Bill Simpson:

2006 TOMATOES

Each year you learn some things and this year was no different. First we got only 2% of our seeds to germinate, because I couldn't keep a constant soil temperature. So we ended up buying tomato plants locally. The second big discovery was the constant disease problem I thought we had is actually a mineral deficiency. If the soil is lacking in any of the 13 mineral nutrients that plants need to grow healthy, it can show up in the plants appearance. Plus sandy soil like ours is famous for having nutrients leeched out of it. All the different fertilizers we've used only have a few of these nutrients, but you need to take in account that I'm cheap and only bought the low priced stuff. So we learned that 1-2 inches of compost each year is as important as water is to healthy plants. That gets those valuable micro-nutrients back into the soil. Plus it's important to remember "More IS NOT better" and stay away from fresh manure.

When we first bought this place and started our tomatoes, we were getting blossom end rot like crazy. So we learned that our sandy soil wasn’t holding a constant amount of moisture. I wish I had started putting my one inch of compost in the soil back then. So we watered them more and more each year and the blossom end rot went away. Then the "Bush Early Girl" hybrid came out and became one of our favorite tomato plants, but we were getting bad leaf curl on all the plants. Well, it turns out that was from too much watering.

So we want everybody out there looking through their seed catalogs to remember if the soil and water isn’t right it doesn’t matter how special those seeds are.

December 2006, From Bill Simpson:

THE GREENHOUSE


I built a small 8x15 greenhouse to use for the 2006 growing season. So I was going to make my wife happy and start our seeds outside of the house. It has glass panels on the side and polycarbonate on the roof, a couple windows, a roof vent, and a fan. With my building and mechanical background it shouldn't be too big of a project.

Seeds need a ground temperature around 75 degrees to sprout. You have to be in the 70-80 degree range to get a good germination. With the windows open and the fans going during the warm days I couldn't keep the air temp less than 100 degrees. Then you needed a heater at night. So I ended up cooking and freezing $50 worth of seeds. The good news is it was easy to find Bush Early Girl tomato plants in town.

If you start tomato seeds in a dirt temp of 50-60 degrees, the plants that do come up are short, stocky and usually have a purple tint to them. That's because tomatoes can't take up phosphorus in cold temperatures and a purple tint usually means a phosphorus deficiency. These seedlings are OK, but they will be a little slower in growing. They get to ride in the short yellow bus.

When the ground temp for your tomato seeds is closer to 85 degrees, you'll get tall lanky plants that are more susceptible to diseases. They get to ride the regular bus, but they're on a first name bases with the school nurse. So that 75 degree temp is the #1 thing to achieve. For #2 don't over water them. Oops! Better get back to talking about the greenhouse.

So it was crazy to think this greenhouse was something to start seeds in. It didn't give me what I needed which was a constant dirt temperature. It does give me a place to hold plants till it's time to plant them in the garden though. If you're looking at doing a greenhouse you need to control the heat and there's a lot of ways to do it. With something as small as mine I need to look at blocking the sun. Like the sun screen tarps to different window tints. I definitely need to educate myself more in that area, but then it got to the point, is a greenhouse the way to go for me?

Since ground temperature is every thing and my fencing blocks some of the wind, it's only logical to look at running some solar hot water lines under the tomato plants. I use to do some solar work down in Denver and just happen to have a couple of panels lying around doing nothing. So my next experiment looks like we'll head in that direction, hopefully this spring.

As for the greenhouse don't worry. It works just perfectly for a 300 gallon plastic tank that holds minnows for ice fishing season. It heats up real nice during the day and holds the heat over night. Make sure you buy a seining permit from Wyoming Game and Fish before you tell your wife you're going to build a greenhouse.

October 2006:

Bill Simpson gardens northwest of Casper. Bill is the gardener that first introduced me to the benefits of Determinate Tomatoes. He fences enclosures to ward off the wind. Here are photos taken in the 2006 season of his 'new' front plot. The fencing material is expanded (perforated) metal.

Before:

This photo was taken by Bill Simpson on June 9, 2006. Note how you can actually see through the fencing material. Yet it is adequate to break up the wind.

After:

This photo of the same plot was taken by Bill Simpson on August 29, 2006, some 81 days later. Note Bill's use of concrete blocks as heat reservoirs. They catch heat of the day and radiate that heat back to the plants at night.

Late November 2005, another note from Bill:

Bill Simpson discovered a new use for tires in the 2005 season. From the 2004 photos below, you can see that Bill has been using concrete blocks for windbreaks and night heat radiation for his plants. This year he tried tires. Like us, he cuts his tires with a little lip left over for strength. This method of cutting, as Bill points out, allows one to avoid the steel belts under the tread and retains a lot of the strength of the tire. ...At this point we would fill the tire with dirt and use it as a raised bed. But Bill inverts his tires!
Bill explains: "We then set the CUT SIDE DOWN on the soil and put a small amount of dirt around the outside edge. The tires help block some of the wind on young plants, keeps out some of the crawling insects, absorbs solar heat in the day, and helps hold it in at night. Plus, I think alot of the insects don't like the smell of tires." That's right, even if you have ants in your driveway, you never see many on the tires of your car.

Bill's circumstances are different than ours. He has lots of space and can use that space to give a tire to each tomato or broccoli plant. He also has more wind than we have, and the tire help there. Tires obviously work better than his concrete blocks. They trap hot air around the plants during the day and early evening. At night, their shape radiates heat to any part of the plants that overhangs the tires. I think Bill Simpson is onto a new and effective use for tires!

November 2005, a note from Bill:

Bill is praising his Papaya Pear Squash he grew in 2005. He says they sold well at the Farmer's Market. The squash are very firm and nearly impossible to overcook. The plants are nice and big and need space. The main stalk/vine grows to six feet. The fruit are the size of a grapefruit. Bill reports that Papaya Pear easily outproduced all other squash in a cool season.

Bill did some planting in tires this year and likes them. he promises to send more news about that later.

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January 2005

I don't know if you can remember our lay out. You saw it when you came out last summer when you came out to look at the Bush Early Girl tomato plants. Since we don't spray for bugs, we get hit good and hard by diseases. I am going to have to rethink that. I recently ran across my plant companionship chart and had the light bulb finally come on. You're suppose to keep POTATOES away from - apples, tomatoes, pumpkins, cucumbers, and raspberries. If they had bell peppers on that list I could have batted 1000.

In reading up on this, this is what I came up with. Potatoes get diseases like Chugwater goes through wind socks, and late blight is usually first on the list. The worst thing you can do is have potatoes by apple trees. That late blight turns into fire blight on them. If you remember, we have 5 apple trees on our east end close to the road. You remember, right next to the raspberry patch! The Winesapp, McIntosh, and Yellow Delicious did fairly well, but the 2 Sweet Sixteen trees just got hammered with fire blight. This was a new problem for us last year, and figured it had to affect the new potato patch 200 ft down wind. In reading up on this, 2 miles wouldn't have been far enough apart.

Well, the next bad plant to have by potatoes is , of course, TOMATOES. We had a good assortment of problems on our tomatoes. The only good thing is the diseases showed up later in the growing season which hit the garden plants worse than the fruits. I guess that's why they call it Late blight. Wow, I'm getting smart. So after reading up on potatoes I don't know if I'll even be planting them next year?

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Bill Simpson gardens a few miles west of the City of Casper. His soil is sandy. His place is more exposed to the elements than most gardens in Casper. To compensate for that he has laid his garden out in cells or areas, each cell is surrounded by a four foot fence to break up the wind.

As you can see above, Bill uses concrete block to surround his peppers. This keeps off wind, and the blocks radiate heat, absorbed during the day, to the peppers all night long. The peppers seem to love this. Bill also plants his tomatoes using the same system.

Bill's Tomatoes:

Bill Simpson plants mostly determinate tomatoes. He trials new varieties each year and he keeps extensive records.

Bill had his best luck in 2004 with: Bush Early Girl (above), a determinate tomato available from Totally Tomatoes and others.

Bill Simpson trialed some indeterminate tomatoes in 2004: Jetsetter, Early Goliath, and New Yorker. He reports:

"All 3 were nice big plants with good sized tomatoes. In the beginning of September we were only picking one or two ripe tomatoes off any of these plants, at any time. The New Yorker was more prone to diseases."

Bill will probably not plant these three varieties in the future.

Bill's 2004 Determinate Tomato Results, from worst to best:

Manitoba This determinate tomato was a total bust. All 6 plants in different locations had problems. They didn't like our place.
Siberia Determinate, plum tomato. It did OK , but gave us no reason to plant it next year.
Pilgrim Determinate plant with good medium size fruit. We had some of the plants grow twice as big as other Pilgrim plants. The plants really loaded up on tomatoes. We will plant this one again. We found we were picking multiple tomatoes before September.
Bush Early Girl Determinate plant, looks a lot like the Pilgrim plant. This is somewhat of a small plant with tons of tomatoes . We probly got a dozen tomatoes off each plant before September. This was this year's big winner for us. We'll plant a lot of these next year.

Note:

"In the past, Burpee's Northern Tomato has been number one on our list. What they have now is Burpee Northern Exposure, a semi-determinate! I don't know how different it is from what we've grown in the past, but it looks like we need to try it next year. Without having a green house I can't see me spending much time on indeterminate plants."

Bill Simpson is doing fine with his determinate tomatoes. He should stick with what works for him. Thanks for the potatoes, Bill. They were delicious.

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